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Neo that shows absolutely nothing.

Feels like I should be handing out special gold stars for everyone that figures out how to link google videos.

lol true Baron

However you will note that that is one of my comments above. That as American citizens they should be DEMANDING answers & release of all evidence. If they really want to know the answers? Seems like some are adament to hear them but others may not be soo happy what they see if the Govt ever had the berries to release them all! Anyone know why the big secrets? I mean if it is terrorists what can the harm be in release GOOD video footage of that AA flight crashing into the pentagon not an explosion! what is there to cover up why the secrecy? I mean it would just make the Al Quaida look worse in the minds of the world no??? Seems odd that the president wouldnt even make him look worse than he already is.

Demand answers & release of all evidence! How does an Impeachment process work or take place?

SLIDER wrote:lol true Baron

However you will note that that is one of my comments above. That as American citizens they should be DEMANDING answers & release of all evidence. If they really want to know the answers? Seems like some are adament to hear them but others may not be soo happy what they see if the Govt ever had the berries to release them all! Anyone know why the big secrets? I mean if it is terrorists what can the harm be in release GOOD video footage of that AA flight crashing into the pentagon not an explosion! what is there to cover up why the secrecy? I mean it would just make the Al Quaida look worse in the minds of the world no??? Seems odd that the president wouldnt even make him look worse than he already is.

Demand answers & release of all evidence! How does an Impeachment process work or take place?

Its not your place to tell Americans what they need to do.

I say Americans but the whole world is at the mercy of what the Americans choose to do about this dilema! We cant call for impeachment or release of these files as you are right its not our Govt. But hey Bush wants one world power & im only assuming the USA but i could be wrong on this so why dont we have a say?

Baron[CotC] wrote:Neo that shows absolutely nothing.

Feels like I should be handing out special gold stars for everyone that figures out how to link google videos.

No, of course not. We all want to see the Hollywood version with on-board camera's and CG. The real version will never satisfy the masses. But it clearly shows that something crashed into the ground before it hit the actual building. And it was large enough to rip through sections of the Pentagon. The bits and pieces laying around were scrap of the plane, yet nobody accepts the facts even still. Even CNN's reports wern't convinced that the plane crashed into it. And they photographed the wreckage. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/

Some people will never be satisfied.

SLIDER wrote:I say Americans but the whole world is at the mercy of what the Americans choose to do about this dilema! We cant call for impeachment or release of these files as you are right its not our Govt. But hey Bush wants one world power & im only assuming the USA but i could be wrong on this so why dont we have a say?

Just simply rejoyce with the rest of us as the days count down!

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I am so sick of hearing this position that it makes me want to puke all over my screen.

Just for the sake of argument, remove the United States, by Martial Lay, by a Nationalist Socialist Right Wing Party that makes the world the USA, or let's just say its obliterated.

Who's next?

YOU

The fact of the matter is, no matter how you play it, there are in fact good guys and bad. And while the good guys may be bad in some books they pale in comparison to what the bad guys will do to you.

You see either you bow down to Mecca each day five times and recite the four pillars of Islam or you die. It really is that simple. Convert or die. This is the way of history and this is the way each Islamic uprise has taken, whether that be the invasion of Europe, the threats against Constantine's capital, or the current situation. Each time a violent response has been needed to push back the invaders.

Except this time finding allies is clearly a problem.

So when we fight and die and America is taken to its knees and itt's just you left over you'll do the tolerant nice comfortable thing: convert. Otherwise you'll join us in the dungheap of history, thrown away and forgotten, and no longer useful.

Naturally I desire that the good guys prevail for it is us or them as no conflict in history has been won by practicing the art of running away. Just ask France about that.

Just to play devil's advocate... how can you determine what is good and bad, right and wrong?

Your viewpoint on what is bad and what is good, as well as who, is all based on the lifestyle you are grown up in. A bad thing for us might be a good thing for someone else. We consider ourselves the good guys, they consider themselves the good guys. The only actual REAL title that can be given, and has been given to people/groups/countries, etc, throughout all of history is "The conquerers, and the conquered".

History has progressed, since human history began, through warfare. One group goes after another group for land or for some other reason, and it goes back and forth for tens of thousands of years. Who can say who was right and who was wrong... our ideas come from the culture we grew up in, mostly with us having to follow the Laws put in place for our protection and learning from Christian values (or values similar to that). The lessons we take from history are only those that we choose to see, or can understand...


On to other business: The footage of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon... I will neither refute it nor support it right now, but I will lay down a couple of ideas as to why there's only that small blip in the corner of something...

An object traveling at upwards of some hundred miles per hour (I wanna say 300-500 MPH?) goes by REALLY FAST if you're that close to it... the only way for a camera to actually capture something that fast at that distance would be for it to have a VERY HIGH number of frames per second... which normal security cameras don't have, thus this whole "what if" debate of what that little shape in the corner is.

As far as Bush's cabinet goes... one word sums it up: Neo-conservatives! Look them up

I also like the idea of counting down to his departure... if only there was a way to seriously cut that number down... FAST

D.A.R.K.[CotC]
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject:
Just to play devil's advocate... how can you determine what is good and bad, right and wrong?

Your viewpoint on what is bad and what is good, as well as who, is all based on the lifestyle you are grown up in. A bad thing for us might be a good thing for someone else. We consider ourselves the good guys, they consider themselves the good guys. The only actual REAL title that can be given, and has been given to people/groups/countries, etc, throughout all of history is "The conquerers, and the conquered".

History has progressed, since human history began, through warfare. One group goes after another group for land or for some other reason, and it goes back and forth for tens of thousands of years. Who can say who was right and who was wrong... our ideas come from the culture we grew up in, mostly with us having to follow the Laws put in place for our protection and learning from Christian values (or values similar to that). The lessons we take from history are only those that we choose to see, or can understand...

Well put DARK!

ADC I still disagree! They are not all that way. Some of them have become Christians. How do i know this you might ask? A missionary from my home town is over there spreading the word as we speak! Rather than vomitting on your monitor the Christian thing to do is pray for these people that they too will come to know the Lord & Savior! PLAIN & SIMPLE. There are MANY that have very PRIVATE Bible studies over there. Key word being private.

One can go on in life being bitter & hateful towards these people for all their injustices. But I ask you this in sincerity, Would Jesus turn them away? I then ask why are you? He accepted prostitutes, lepers, tax collectors, & even the thief on the cross beside him.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=9;

This my friend means YOU & I & every other human being out there. The difference being is that we have a knowledge of Christ! Pray for their Salvation. No aurguement can change this, we are all inherently evil.



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In the Lords eyes one evil is no worse than any other! The ONLY upardonable sin is:

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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... 2012:31,32

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... &version=9

These are the URLS sorry i screwed them up

One other thing ADC if I am next praise the Lord!!! I'd rather be in heaven than on this messed up planet of corruption anyways. When it's my time to be called home I want a window seat & to be first in line!

SLIDER wrote:One other thing ADC if I am next praise the Lord!!! I'd rather be in heaven than on this messed up planet of corruption anyways. When it's my time to be called home I want a window seat & to be first in line!

What on earth are you doing out of bed at this hour? Now go to bed Slider.

Isn't it about time we stop stepping all over each other's toes and put this damn subject to rest yet?
At this point I really think there's too much friendly fire going on. It needs to stop before someone gets pissed off and walks.

Amen, Brother /KD.

I'm done with this subject.

Sorry, didn't mean for it to turn into a huge debate. I just noticed the video looked odd, etc...