Campquake Senate

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3762628848
long but interesting

It's awfully funny how everyone gets soooo dead set against the USA having ANYTHING to do with this disaster that took place on US soil.

Do you think that most people can figure out who "really" did it?

Some jump to conclusions, some claim not to have enough information.

And what if that's it? We aren't given enough information.

"Go look for yourself Ender!" you shout. "There are all the signs for you to see! It was the terrorists! Our president says so!"

I dont know if any of you have read the book 1984 by George Orwell, if not you should consider picking it up.

But, for those who haven't read it, the book shows how easily ones rights can be taken away. But, the book shows the control over people in a way that is very obvious and that all can see. People are monitered everywhere they go, conversations are recorded, and if people speak out against the government they dissapear in the night (hmmm... a little bit like the "patriot" act if it got out of hand).

But my point is, what if our government is doing the same thing, but on a level so undetectable... that we cannot detect it.

Our government is very good at hiding things that they dont want us to see.

Our fear of terrorists in the USA is much like the Red Scares of the middle ninties. The government went to such lengths to secure the country from "communists" that people were arrested if they were even suspected of being a communist or a supporter of a communist. A good movie to watch on that subject is Good Night and Good Luck

But im not saying it wasn't the terrorists. For all i know it was.

I'm just putting a different view out there.

The truth or a conspiracy. Either way, it was a horrible event.

It could have made our nation greater and stonger, but instead it made us nationalistic beyond all belief.

Absolute hogwash.

The turbine fan unit is from an APU.

The only data the tin foil types have is a Honeywell spokeman who cannot be named, said it wasn't from a Honeywell APU.

Right.


Project Achilles - Flying a 172 to test if cell service works on a plane. Utter crap. Flew to 8000 feet and had .1 success rate. Then they go on about how American is installing cell serivice on planes, as if that means that cell service doesn't work on planes. The problem is, cell phones work too good at altitude. It is not an FAA rule about using cell phones, it is an FCC rule. Cells were designed to be used at the ground level, and at altitude, your phone gets too much coverage, and hits too many cells.


It is disgraceful to suggest that the people who lost their lives on AA 77 were the result of a government conspiracy.

Oh, and these folks must have been government thugs, or on mind altering drugs to claim they saw an airplane hit the pentagon.

http://www.criticalthrash.com/terror/id ... ation.html

SLIDER wrote:It's awfully funny how everyone gets soooo dead set against the USA having ANYTHING to do with this disaster that took place on US soil.

That would require some sort of evidence. There's a lot of hot air in conspiracy circles, but those folks are not that bright to begin with.

Just look at the ground on the Crash site at the pentagon! you check out any other plane crash & there is debris everywhere & the trails. Cars were not JET WASHED of the INTERSTATE into the Pentagon as this 757 flew over head within however many feet on approach into the Pentagon???????? As Warf stated TOTAL HOGWASH! One can choose to believe what they want but look at the facts! All the info on that 757 there is NO WAY that there was one crash into that building!

warf wrote:Oh, and these folks must have been government thugs, or on mind altering drugs to claim they saw an airplane hit the pentagon.

http://www.criticalthrash.com/terror/id ... ation.html

Warf! You've got it all wrong. The government flew remote controlled planes into the buildings. And missles into other buildings. The passengers were gassed and put to sleep while in flight. They are now on an undisclosed island, and don't have contact with the world. They have been made to believe that they are the survivors of a terrific plane crash with no rescue crew to come after them.

Oh, wait, part of that is a TV show... Nevermind!

There's plenty of debris:

http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html

If you have the stomach, look at the following:

http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/jpg/size600/P200045-1.jpg

I'm sure these peoples ID were in a filed in PA, because they were planted by a government thug, not from UA 93?





So Slider my hogwash comment does not support your position.

The facts are that AA 77 came to a terrible end, flown by evil men, into the pentagon.

You can choose to believe what you want, however the facts are clear.

Yeah, let's not question our government. baaaaaaaah

On the APU:
"However, APUs tend to be much smaller than jet engines, and the component pictured at the Pentagon is too large to match any found in an APU." http://www.aerospaceweb.org

This is my favorite quote from your site:
"it was like a cruise missile with wings"


I wasn't even really focusing on the Pentagon portion of this. Yeah, the 13 foot hole punching through 9 feet of reinforced concrete and steel when only the bottom 2/5 of the aluminum plane might make it's way through is odd, along with no engine holes...

I'm more focused on the controlled detonations at the WTC 30 stories below the impact zone, the physics of steel debris launching up at 45 degree angles when they should have just fell, the 9 explosions heard from WTC2 before it collapsed causing smoke clouds at it's base, the buildings falling at a speed indacitive of a vaccum (no resistance , not even to normal air... let alone the building itself), the subterranian explosion that happened before the planes hit, the flashes from the helicopter that flew above WTC2 seconds before it collapsed, Tripod 2, WTC 7 collapsing at all...

Nemesis, you're stereotyping and nothing you said is based in fact.

This is from the site you referenced on the turbine hub:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/co ... 265.shtml/

Better yet maybe the terrorists paid the people who jeopradized their lives by entering those FREAKING towers (ie. Rescue Personnal) to lie about hearing bombs going off on the various floors! Pardon me for seeming a lil harsh but those of us doing the jobs that we do without regard for our own lives alot of the time (Paramedics, Police, Fireman, & the Military) its wrong! If you look at the way those towers collapsed that was a demolition crew not planes melting steel!! Sadly enough to say. 3 buildings collapse (imploding that is) without any structural damage to the other surrounding buildings.

Good point BD governments NEVER EVER tell lies. They are the most honest people out there!!!!




NOT!

& Warf if the GOVT did have anything to do with it do you think they would care in the ABSOLUTE least about passengers on any of those flights. NO totally expendable! Small loss for HUGE gain of going into the Middle East with guns ablazin.

Oh and about that pic with the charred body you expect us to believe that that was from that crasH??????????

The temps from the fires are hot enough to MELT the steel of the WTC buildings but is not hot enough to totally make a body ash??? I'm confused! Please enlighten me Warf on how this one works?

And here is some more government information, I mean coverup.

http://wtc.nist.gov/WTC_Conf_Sep13-15/s ... lister.pdf

I wouldn't give our government credit to plan, execute and coverup this scenario.

I mean, come on, have you ever been to a DMV?

LMAO!!! Good one Warf!

Guys, listen, our government can't even fix healthcare, let alone plan, execute, and carry out such an attack with the precision necessary to take these buildings down without hiring the best contractor at the lowest bid to do the job! These are a series of unfortunate events which are just as confusing and incredible as the story itself. BD, you're a military man, follow things with Military precision... Did the Military bring you home on time?